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		<title>Comment on Beyond bricks and mortar boards: universities and the future of regional economic development by Jason Cook</title>
		<link>http://blog.universitiesuk.ac.uk/2012/02/15/beyondbricksmortarboards/#comment-345</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Cook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe that Universities have become too much of a common currency and lost a lot of their elite status. I am not saying that Universities should not be available to all given the right education, but a lot of people in my experience use their time at University for a jolly and would have been better served on an apprenticeship course or similar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that Universities have become too much of a common currency and lost a lot of their elite status. I am not saying that Universities should not be available to all given the right education, but a lot of people in my experience use their time at University for a jolly and would have been better served on an apprenticeship course or similar.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Look beyond the headlines figures to find out what’s really going on with university applications by Andrew Fisher</title>
		<link>http://blog.universitiesuk.ac.uk/2012/01/30/ucasjandeadlines/#comment-294</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Fisher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 09:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure it is much comfort for those of us that work in HE that the decline in application rates in a shrinking cohort of 18-year olds is only modest...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure it is much comfort for those of us that work in HE that the decline in application rates in a shrinking cohort of 18-year olds is only modest&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Look beyond the headlines figures to find out what’s really going on with university applications by The Furry Blogmother</title>
		<link>http://blog.universitiesuk.ac.uk/2012/01/30/ucasjandeadlines/#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Furry Blogmother]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reblogged this on &lt;a href=&quot;http://thefurryblogmother.wordpress.com/2012/01/30/126/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thefurryblogmother&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reblogged this on <a href="http://thefurryblogmother.wordpress.com/2012/01/30/126/" rel="nofollow">thefurryblogmother</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Yes to open debate and transparency in research, but FOI is the wrong tool for the job by Rodney Breen</title>
		<link>http://blog.universitiesuk.ac.uk/2012/01/11/foiexemption/#comment-269</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rodney Breen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 21:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve looked at these examples and I&#039;m not convinced: they&#039;re mostly theoretical - what might happen, not what has. Every sector has advanced the same sort of arguments and generally been rebuffed by the two Commissioners unless there is robust evidence - in which case the claims have been upheld.

Information on individual participants is surely protected by the personal data and confidentiality exemptions. Researchers competing for data to publish first? By definition, future publication. A &#039;strong implication&#039; that the Commissioner would be asked? So what? That&#039;s what he&#039;s there for and he&#039;s very likely to support a good case for the exemptions cited. In fact, the more decisions we have the more confident we can be in making exemption arguments. Having to prove commercial interests and public interest against disclosure? Yes, as with other organisations, there is a need to consider genuine public interest where it exists.&quot;A lot of this data is commercially sensitive and can even have security implications for the people supplying it.&quot; Yes, and there are exemptions for both of those.

It&#039;s worth remembering that the Scottish research exemption is balanced by a limit on the pre-publication exemption in general - 12 weeks under FOISA as opposed to no set period in FOIA. 

Animal research? I&#039;ve seen this subject come up in Scotland and the research exemption was not the one called upon. As in other parts of the UK, health and safety of researchers, personal data and commercial interests are the exemptions likely to be involved, and properly so. But again, the Commissioner has to balance the genuine public interest in knowing that research does not involve unnecessary suffering to animals. 

Climate change research? Here is the best example of why FOIA and FOISA should not be resisted. Both in the UEA example which later led to &#039;Climategate&#039; and in QUB (tree rings) the academic response to scrutiny was defensive: circle the waggons and hide behind the traditional secrecy. And in each case, the result was lose-lose: the information came out anyway and left the Universities looking like they had something to hide. The reality is that the world has changed and that sort of approach is simply unacceptable. The way to cope with concerns that uniformed or malicious requesters will misuse the information - a concern shared by many other organisations facing FOI requests - is to be proactive, embrace the need for transparency, and take the initiative on promoting public understanding of the issue - something which climate change researchers have generally been poor at.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve looked at these examples and I&#8217;m not convinced: they&#8217;re mostly theoretical &#8211; what might happen, not what has. Every sector has advanced the same sort of arguments and generally been rebuffed by the two Commissioners unless there is robust evidence &#8211; in which case the claims have been upheld.</p>
<p>Information on individual participants is surely protected by the personal data and confidentiality exemptions. Researchers competing for data to publish first? By definition, future publication. A &#8216;strong implication&#8217; that the Commissioner would be asked? So what? That&#8217;s what he&#8217;s there for and he&#8217;s very likely to support a good case for the exemptions cited. In fact, the more decisions we have the more confident we can be in making exemption arguments. Having to prove commercial interests and public interest against disclosure? Yes, as with other organisations, there is a need to consider genuine public interest where it exists.&#8221;A lot of this data is commercially sensitive and can even have security implications for the people supplying it.&#8221; Yes, and there are exemptions for both of those.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth remembering that the Scottish research exemption is balanced by a limit on the pre-publication exemption in general &#8211; 12 weeks under FOISA as opposed to no set period in FOIA. </p>
<p>Animal research? I&#8217;ve seen this subject come up in Scotland and the research exemption was not the one called upon. As in other parts of the UK, health and safety of researchers, personal data and commercial interests are the exemptions likely to be involved, and properly so. But again, the Commissioner has to balance the genuine public interest in knowing that research does not involve unnecessary suffering to animals. </p>
<p>Climate change research? Here is the best example of why FOIA and FOISA should not be resisted. Both in the UEA example which later led to &#8216;Climategate&#8217; and in QUB (tree rings) the academic response to scrutiny was defensive: circle the waggons and hide behind the traditional secrecy. And in each case, the result was lose-lose: the information came out anyway and left the Universities looking like they had something to hide. The reality is that the world has changed and that sort of approach is simply unacceptable. The way to cope with concerns that uniformed or malicious requesters will misuse the information &#8211; a concern shared by many other organisations facing FOI requests &#8211; is to be proactive, embrace the need for transparency, and take the initiative on promoting public understanding of the issue &#8211; something which climate change researchers have generally been poor at.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Yes to open debate and transparency in research, but FOI is the wrong tool for the job by Vivienne Stern</title>
		<link>http://blog.universitiesuk.ac.uk/2012/01/11/foiexemption/#comment-268</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vivienne Stern]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 10:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are a number of examples of the kind of thing we are concerned about in the briefing for Peers  at 
http://www.universitiesuk.ac.uk/ParliamentaryActivities/UUKInParliament/Pages/default.aspx

Let us know what you think.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a number of examples of the kind of thing we are concerned about in the briefing for Peers  at<br />
<a href="http://www.universitiesuk.ac.uk/ParliamentaryActivities/UUKInParliament/Pages/default.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.universitiesuk.ac.uk/ParliamentaryActivities/UUKInParliament/Pages/default.aspx</a></p>
<p>Let us know what you think.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Yes to open debate and transparency in research, but FOI is the wrong tool for the job by Martin Locock</title>
		<link>http://blog.universitiesuk.ac.uk/2012/01/11/foiexemption/#comment-267</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Locock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 10:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you argue that universities aren&#039;t really public bodies, then they should be treated like other private bodies, and taxed, regulated and managed accordingly.  That seems a high price to pay for the inconvenience of releasing some data.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you argue that universities aren&#8217;t really public bodies, then they should be treated like other private bodies, and taxed, regulated and managed accordingly.  That seems a high price to pay for the inconvenience of releasing some data.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Yes to open debate and transparency in research, but FOI is the wrong tool for the job by &#187; Remote ivory towers or engaged with the modern world? Universities must decide FOI Man</title>
		<link>http://blog.universitiesuk.ac.uk/2012/01/11/foiexemption/#comment-266</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#187; Remote ivory towers or engaged with the modern world? Universities must decide FOI Man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 14:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] out of the way, what is it that&#8217;s got me so hot under the cape (as it were)? It&#8217;s a blog post from Universities UK, the self-styled representatives of universities and higher education in the UK. In this post, UUK [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] out of the way, what is it that&#8217;s got me so hot under the cape (as it were)? It&#8217;s a blog post from Universities UK, the self-styled representatives of universities and higher education in the UK. In this post, UUK [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Yes to open debate and transparency in research, but FOI is the wrong tool for the job by Rodney Breen</title>
		<link>http://blog.universitiesuk.ac.uk/2012/01/11/foiexemption/#comment-264</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rodney Breen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 19:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you offer any examples of research information which has been disclosed through FOI or EIR that should not have been? I can&#039;t think of any. The Acts are pretty robust in protecting information which genuinely should not be disclosed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you offer any examples of research information which has been disclosed through FOI or EIR that should not have been? I can&#8217;t think of any. The Acts are pretty robust in protecting information which genuinely should not be disclosed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on We need to be innovative about university and business collaboration by Neil</title>
		<link>http://blog.universitiesuk.ac.uk/2011/12/08/innovation/#comment-249</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 01:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the big problems that occurs is that there are some courses at Universities that have a large take-up of courses for 3-4 years and yet at the end of it there are dozens of graduates but no jobs to go to in that particular industry, with that degree.

Perhaps more &#039;sponsorship&#039; schemes by companies and organisations that would then benefit the newly qualified graduates and not leave them in limbo with no income.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the big problems that occurs is that there are some courses at Universities that have a large take-up of courses for 3-4 years and yet at the end of it there are dozens of graduates but no jobs to go to in that particular industry, with that degree.</p>
<p>Perhaps more &#8216;sponsorship&#8217; schemes by companies and organisations that would then benefit the newly qualified graduates and not leave them in limbo with no income.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reflections from Australia: across the globe, investment in higher education is central to securing growth, finds Nicola Dandridge by Neil</title>
		<link>http://blog.universitiesuk.ac.uk/2011/10/24/australianhe/#comment-248</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 01:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To think that the UK used to lead the way in education and yet now we look to others for sources of inspiration.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To think that the UK used to lead the way in education and yet now we look to others for sources of inspiration.</p>
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